13:02:20 [Mitch] Darcy has very kindly agreed to do a 2nd part of his talk on video editing
13:02:53 [Mitch] I don't have any other scheduled discussions at the moment but if you would like to lead one, let me know
13:03:09 [Mitch] with that I'll turn it over to Darcy
13:03:21 [darcy] thanks mitch
13:03:27 [darcy] hey everyone, thanks for coming out
13:03:43 [darcy] did everyone here either attend the last discussion or read over the transcript?
13:03:54 [review1000] no sorry i missed it
13:04:02 [Mitch] yep
13:04:02 [jburly] i was here & loved it
13:04:05 [review1000] where can i get a transcript
13:04:39 [Mitch] there is a link off the chat logon page
13:04:55 [darcy] ok, well before we pick up the discussion, i just wanted to touch on why logging is important - i kind of glossed that over last time
13:04:56 [Mitch] Discussions & tutorials
13:05:14 [review1000] thanks
13:05:31 [darcy] when you log your clips before you capture them, you are creating an offline file that contains the info relevant to that clip
13:06:13 [review1000] is that extra wasted space for your computer or is it needed
13:06:44 [darcy] so after you batch capture your media, assemble your sequences and then later delete the media, as long as you keep the project file with its offline files protected inside, you can always recapture your footage later and the sequences will have their proper clips put back in place automagically
13:06:56 [darcy] it is an excellent way to archive your work
13:07:11 [darcy] just keep the tapes and the project file and you're always good
13:07:12 [review1000] ok
13:07:39 [darcy] everyone understand that?
13:07:40 [jburly] excellent point
13:07:50 [review1000] yes
13:07:54 [Mitch] yes
13:08:06 [darcy] great
13:08:11 [psturgill] yep
13:08:16 [darcy] ok, we're going to start with assembling your rough cut
13:08:29 [ash] yes
13:08:47 [darcy] you've got all your media captured, and by now you've got a good idea of what's there and how you'd like to arrange it in the sequence
13:09:39 [darcy] so find the clip in the project window, in one of your bins, you want for the first clip in the sequence and double click it to send it to the source monitor
13:09:57 [darcy] you're going to set an in and out point for this clip to trim off some of the fat
13:10:18 [darcy] but don't spend too much time trying to get this perfect - a rough job will do
13:10:22 [review1000] lol
13:10:41 [darcy] when the clip is trimmed, you're going to send it to the timeline
13:11:02 [darcy] to do this, you'll normally want to perform what is called in insert edit
13:11:21 [darcy] lets talk about what an insert edit is
13:11:36 [darcy] does everyone have some footage ready to go in ppro?
13:11:57 [Mitch] yep
13:11:58 [review1000] yes
13:12:08 [psturgill] no, but go ahead
13:12:26 [darcy] please take a clip into the source monitor and set and in and out point
13:12:42 [darcy] when you are ready, press the "," (comma) key
13:12:43 [Nancy] done
13:12:55 [darcy] this will send the clip to the timeline
13:13:09 [jburly] done
13:13:11 [darcy] it will place its inpoint at the point where the CTI was in the timeline
13:13:16 [Mitch] done
13:13:26 [darcy] the CTI will also move to the end of the clip
13:13:28 [psturgill] got a question
13:13:29 [darcy] clip
13:13:30 [Nancy] cool
13:13:34 [darcy] go ahead
13:14:04 [psturgill] does the audio portion of the clip always go to Audio 1? Or can you specify which track it goes to?
13:14:08 [review1000] darcy
13:14:21 [review1000] question after him
13:14:52 [darcy] you specify the track either your audio or video goes to by selecting that track in the timeline
13:15:15 [darcy] the active track will be a darker grey where it says the track name and has the track options
13:15:23 [darcy] click a different one to make it active
13:15:31 [review1000] am i setting only in and out points? then the comma to place it on the timeline
13:15:35 [darcy] make sense?
13:15:44 [psturgill] yea... I think that I've done that, but it doesn't always work..
13:15:57 [psturgill] I will try it again when I get home
13:16:04 [jburly] yes, darcy -- I've done this for the video track, but didn't realize you could also specify which audio track
13:16:29 [darcy] review - yes, that is correct
13:16:45 [review1000] ok got it
13:17:07 [psturgill] yea, video track is not my problem... audio seems to be my issue..
13:17:19 [darcy] ok, so now i'd like you to bring another clip to the source monitor, set an in and out, and perform another insert edit
13:17:24 [Nancy] I have the same problem Paul - it goes to some odd track
13:17:34 [jburly] review, you can set the in & out points with the 'i' or 'o' as well as by clicking on the appropriate icon
13:17:59 [darcy] you have to make the audio track you want to send to be the active track
13:18:30 [review1000] ok i was right clicking on the source timeline thanks for the quick tip
13:18:45 [darcy] has everyone performed their second insert edit?
13:18:56 [Nancy] yes
13:19:03 [Mitch] yes
13:19:10 [jburly] I've just inserted the same clip several times & selected different audio tracks & had no problem getting the audio to go on the right track
13:19:11 [jburly] yes
13:19:19 [review1000] yes
13:19:34 [darcy] so now you have two clips butted nicely against each other in the timeline, and the CTI is waiting at the end of the second clip for your next edit
13:19:51 [ash] i did it ..
13:19:58 [darcy] now trim a third clip in the source monitor
13:20:14 [ash] k
13:20:23 [darcy] but before you perform your next insert, make the timeline active for a moment and press the "page down" key
13:20:45 [darcy] this key will move your CTI backwards through all your edit points
13:21:05 [darcy] so now your CTI is placed on the cut between your first and second clips
13:21:11 [darcy] correct?
13:21:37 [Mitch] didn't move
13:21:48 [psturgill] I thought the Page Up key did backwards and Page Down did forward... but I am
13:21:51 [Nancy] page up I think Darcy
13:22:00 [darcy] my bad - yes page up
13:22:01 [review1000] when i press the comma to place it on the time line the are space far apart and not butted together
13:22:02 [darcy] sorry all
13:22:06 [darcy] page down moves forward
13:22:20 [darcy]
you have to kind of think backwards a bit on that one
13:22:22 [Mitch] that worked
13:23:14 [jburly] page up/down -- good shortcut for moving between the clips!
13:23:29 [darcy] review - when you perform an insert edit, it will place the clips inpoint wherever the CTI was on the timeline so if you moved your CTI, that's where the clip will go
13:23:57 [review1000] ok that's what happened sorry
13:24:00 [darcy] so the trick is when performing these edits, not to fiddle with the CTI
13:24:28 [darcy] ok so now we have our third trimmed clip in the source, and our CTI placed between our two clips in the timeline
13:24:49 [darcy] make the source active and press comma to perform an insert edit
13:24:54 [darcy] what happens??
13:25:23 [Mitch] yep
13:25:37 [review1000] it works
13:25:40 [darcy] can anyone tell me what happened?
13:25:42 [review1000] thanks darcy
13:25:47 [Mitch] inserts inbetween
13:25:52 [jburly] 3rd clip inserted between 1 & 2
13:25:53 [psturgill] overlay
13:26:00 [Nancy] cool
13:26:05 [psturgill]
(assuming of course since I don't have PPro up.. )
13:26:08 [ash] me too
13:26:09 [review1000] place the clip next to the last insert
13:26:12 [darcy] and what was the second clip ripples forward
13:27:06 [review1000] oh let me try i have been using the same footage
13:27:09 [darcy] ok, so that is why its called an insert edit, because it can allow you to insert clips into your timeline, shifting everything else ahead of it
13:27:22 [darcy] ok, press ctrl+z to undo that edit
13:27:45 [ash] k
13:27:48 [psturgill] so if you have a long audio track covering the entire timeline...it will break the audio apart?
13:27:53 [darcy] so the clip is now no longer in the timeline
13:27:53 [Nancy] yep
13:28:12 [darcy] paul - unless you lock the audio track first
13:28:39 [psturgill] thanks
13:29:00 [Mitch] good here
13:29:18 [darcy] ok, so now move your CTI to somewhere in the middle of clip two
13:29:19 [review1000] ok
13:29:28 [darcy] not on a cut, just anywhere in the clip
13:29:38 [darcy] perform your insert edit again
13:29:51 [review1000] it splits the footage
13:29:54 [darcy] it literally inserts into the clip
13:30:12 [darcy] ok, undo that
13:30:25 [review1000] ok
13:30:26 [darcy] that's the basics on the insert edit
13:30:34 [darcy] everyone comfortable with that now?
13:30:41 [review1000] i guess
13:30:43 [psturgill] yep
13:30:48 [Mitch] yes
13:30:55 [review1000] great job darcy
13:31:06 [Nancy] any ideas why it inserted it twice?
13:31:10 [darcy] ok, now place your CTI on the cut between your two clips again
13:31:27 [darcy] nancy - did you press the comma twice?
13:31:29 [Nancy] oh nevermind - silly me
13:31:32 [psturgill] pressed , twice?
13:31:32 [FM] may I add a note to this, Darcy?
13:31:38 [Mitch] press the key twice?
13:31:44 [Nancy] no - I must have been looking cross-eyed
13:31:51 [darcy] please do FM
13:32:01 [psturgill] lol@nancy
13:32:46 [FM] ok, thanks. those who never used traditional linear editing suites disregard this note
13:33:23 [FM] But insert edit in NLEs are not the same as it were
13:34:09 [FM] on a NLE Overlay Edit = Insert edit in Linear Editing.. end of note
13:34:21 [review1000] what's next
13:34:29 [ash] very nice explanation...
13:34:30 [psturgill] I'd like to add that you can choose what to insert, audio, video or both... there is a icon in the bottom right of the selection screen that toggles those options, so you don't have to insert the video or audio if you don't want to...
13:34:34 [darcy] ok, well that's a good segway to talk about overlay editing
13:34:55 [review1000] bottom right where?
13:35:16 [darcy] paul - good point, but we'll get to that
13:35:21 [psturgill] source monitor
13:35:28 [review1000] found it on the source monitor
13:35:30 [Nancy] thanks Paul
13:35:32 [psturgill] oops... sorry if I jumped ahead
13:35:33 [review1000] thanks
13:35:44 [darcy] nope, its cool
13:36:02 [darcy] ok, so everyone has their CTI placed between clip 1 and 2 in the timeline?
13:36:14 [darcy] and a trimmed clip ready to go in the source?
13:36:18 [review1000] that is useful to know thanks paul , i always separate the tracks and delete them manually
13:36:29 [review1000] yes
13:36:33 [darcy] with the source monitor active, press the "." (period) key
13:36:49 [darcy] you are now performing an overlay edit
13:37:06 [jburly] got it
13:37:09 [review1000] what does overlay do?
13:37:18 [darcy] notice clip two gets covered over by clip 3
13:37:40 [Mitch] yep
13:37:47 [review1000] ok i see
13:37:51 [darcy] its like painting over a previous paint job
13:38:01 [psturgill] since I can't see what is happening... does overlay actually delete the clip it sits on?
13:38:26 [jburly] if it is longer than the clip, yes
13:38:26 [darcy] yes, they are not hidden underneath if that's what you mean
13:38:35 [review1000] i thinks it like a cut and paste anyway right
13:38:44 [psturgill] ok.. thanks
13:38:47 [darcy] if there is anything left of the clip, though, you can always use trim to get it back
13:39:29 [darcy] so with insert and overlay editing you have a lot of options for how to get your footage into your sequence
13:39:52 [Nancy] so overlay sort of obliterates another clip?
13:40:11 [jburly] yep
13:40:12 [Mitch] replaces
13:40:19 [darcy] the last thing i want to point out with this is that in either case, you can choose to either send both video and audio, just video or just audio when you perform these edits
13:40:31 [review1000] ok that makes it faster to edit
13:40:39 [psturgill] I think that it basically trims it to the Time where the overlaid clip ends... since you can still trim it back.. no?
13:40:55 [darcy] in the source monitor there are buttons you can click to perform your insert and overlay edits
13:41:04 [darcy] they are in the bottom right corner
13:41:11 [darcy] the third button there is a toggle
13:41:12 [Nancy] yes. thanks.
13:41:48 [jburly] note - i believe that every time you open a new source clip in the source window, the toggle is reset to video & audio
13:41:48 [darcy] you can toggle between "take audio and video" "take video" and "take audio"
13:42:21 [jburly] if you bring in a long clip & set multiple in/out points to insert with video only, when you go to the next video source, you need to reset the toggle
13:42:36 [darcy] ok, so now using your editing techniques, please arrange 3 or 4 clips into a sequence
13:43:11 [psturgill] Jburly... if you go back to the source that had "Video Only" originally... does it retain that setting
13:43:16 [darcy] we're going to talk about different types of edits you can perform in the timeline
13:43:44 [darcy] let me know when you're ready
13:43:55 [review1000] ready
13:43:56 [psturgill] ready... sorry..
13:43:58 [jburly] ready
13:44:06 [darcy] use 4 clips
13:44:12 [darcy] now that i think of it
13:44:40 [review1000] ok
13:44:40 [Mitch] ready
13:44:48 [Nancy] ready
13:44:55 [darcy] ok, when editing in the timeline, the default editing modes are lift and overlay
13:45:03 [review1000] wait
13:45:13 [review1000] how do clear my timeline?
13:45:31 [darcy] if you click on clip 2 and move it to the edit between clip 3 and 4, see what happens
13:45:37 [review1000] besides ctrl z to remove the history
13:46:10 [darcy] just delete them all
13:46:22 [review1000] ok
13:46:36 [darcy] what you have performed is a lift and overlay
13:46:43 [jburly] it overlay-ed
13:46:54 [darcy] see how a gap was left from where clip 2 was, and clip two covered over clip 4?
13:47:01 [review1000] yes i saw it
13:47:12 [darcy] ok, undo that
13:47:13 [Mitch] yes
13:47:15 [jburly] yep
13:47:39 [darcy] this time i want you to first hold down the ctrl key, the click on clip 2 and start to move it
13:48:18 [darcy] with the clip still selected, release ctrl and then place the clip in the edit between 3 and 4
13:48:25 [review1000] they switch spots
13:48:35 [darcy] now you've performer an extract and overlay
13:49:02 [darcy] the gap from clip 2 was rippled closed, but clip 2 still overlaid on clip 4
13:49:05 [darcy] undo this
13:49:23 [jburly] ok
13:49:31 [darcy] this time, hold ctrl, and don't let it go until you've placed clip 2 between 3 and 4
13:49:43 [Mitch] good
13:49:54 [darcy] release the mouse before you release the clip
13:50:00 [psturgill] what did it do? I am blind here...
13:50:08 [darcy] now you've done an extract and insert
13:50:30 [darcy] the gap from clip two was rippled closed, and clip 2 inserted between clip 3 and 4
13:50:38 [psturgill] ah
13:50:42 [darcy] so clip 4 rippled down he timeline to make room for clip 2
13:50:43 [jburly] cool
13:51:15 [darcy] finally, don't hold ctrl but just pick up clip 2, the press ctrl and place clip 2 between 3 and 4
13:51:16 [psturgill] very cool..
13:51:32 [darcy] now you've performed a lift and insert
13:51:33 [psturgill] I bet it leaves a gap, but inserts the clip... am I right?
13:51:46 [darcy] clip 2 leaves a gap, but it inserts between 3 and 4
13:51:51 [darcy] bingo!
13:51:54 [jburly] no gaps
13:52:08 [darcy] people - the ctrl key is your best friend in ppro
13:52:17 [jburly] oops, I'm back a step... didn't see the lift & insert instructions
13:52:18 [Nancy] aaahhhhaaaa *S*
13:52:23 [psturgill] very cool ... I will be able to use that immediately
13:52:35 [darcy] jburly - if you have no gap, then you must have held crtl before you grabbed the clip
13:52:50 [Mitch] cool
13:52:57 [psturgill]
Well Ctrl-Z is mine since I make so many mistakes..
13:52:57 [Nancy] I've needed that one. thanks
13:52:58 [jburly]
no darcy, i was in between carrot & green bean baby
food jars...
13:53:09 [darcy] so ctrl allows you to extract and insert, while no ctrl lets you lift and overlay
13:53:17 [jburly] i am truly multi-tasking
13:53:27 [darcy] and you can mix and match all four techniques to suit your needs for each edit
13:53:39 [jburly] very cool
13:53:41 [darcy] lol@jburly
13:53:53 [darcy] does everyone have a grasp on that?
13:54:07 [Mitch] yep
13:54:13 [psturgill] yep
13:54:21 [Nancy] I think so.
13:54:22 [darcy] so lets get into trimming!
13:54:30 [jburly] yep
13:54:59 [darcy] the default trim mode in ppro is trim - it will leave a gap if you trim back, and it will overlay if you trim forward and another clip is in front of what you are trimming
13:55:27 [darcy] if you hold the ctrl key and them trim you will be performing a ripple edit
13:55:54 [darcy] you can trim a clip back, and everything ahead of it will stick to the end of the clip - it will follow it
13:56:09 [Nancy] how cool
13:56:24 [darcy] you can trim forward and everything will move forward so not to get covered over by what you are trimming out
13:57:32 [darcy] and this is wicked cool: you can grab the inpoint of clip 2 and trim so you are removing frames, and while the clip gets smaller it will always stay butted to clip 1, and everything else down the timeline will suck back with it
13:57:35 [Nancy] it seems to only work in one direction?
13:58:09 [darcy] you have to pay attention to what the tool is telling you....
13:58:33 [darcy] the direction the brackets are facing is the clip you will be trimming
13:59:13 [Nancy] I understand the brackets, but what if what I want to add is at the end, and not the beginning?
13:59:40 [darcy] then go to the end of the clip and pull to extend it
13:59:55 [Nancy] I think I was at the end of the clip. I'll practice more later. thanks
14:00:04 [darcy] everything else will move forward to as not to get covered over
14:00:18 [darcy] how is everyone else doing with this?
14:00:35 [Mitch] good
14:00:35 [jburly] moving either end either direction will not affect the other clips duration -- it will just move them to keep them all butted together
14:00:54 [jburly] doing ok, darcy
14:01:25 [darcy] and while you are trimming, look up at the program monitor....
14:01:57 [darcy] it shows you the frame you are butted against and the frame you are trimming to
14:02:02 [FM] ok
14:02:25 [Nancy] nice
14:02:34 [Mitch] yep
14:02:35 [darcy] this is a great visual indicator for what you are doing
14:02:47 [darcy] wow - time flies!!
14:02:59 [darcy] ok, I've got some more in me if you're all willing
14:03:08 [jburly] excellent to see the exact starting/ending point...
14:03:12 [Mitch] yea!
14:03:21 [jburly] of course!
14:03:23 [Mitch] sure
14:03:57 [darcy] i won't go over J-andL-cuts again since you can just read over the transcript
14:03:59 [Nancy] I vote for more. *S*
14:04:28 [jburly] ok -- i think i understood them
14:04:33 [darcy] does anyone here know what a jump cut is?
14:04:45 [jburly] no
14:05:30 [Mitch] rocky cuts himself when he jumps off a roof?
14:05:57 [jburly]
14:05:57 [darcy] jump cuts are one of the more obvious editing techniques you can use, but they are meant to convey a sense of disturbance or quick passage of time
14:06:15 [darcy] basically, so you have a shot of someone walking towards the camera
14:06:32 [darcy] its 20 seconds long
14:07:18 [darcy] if you cut out the section from second 8 to second 12, you've just created a jump cut
14:07:34 [darcy] jump cuts are usually done in tandem
14:08:04 [darcy] so you would use three or four of them in a row on the same clip, and this would be a jarring effect for the audience
14:08:07 [jburly] in 2's?
14:08:32 [Mitch] makes sense
14:08:32 [darcy] identifying where to come in and out on your cuts is the most important part
14:08:43 [darcy] you want to give a sense that things are changing
14:09:12 [darcy] so if someone is washing a window and every time you cut their hand is pretty much in the same location, it wont look like much
14:09:40 [Nancy] makes sense
14:09:55 [darcy] (i don't think i really know the meaning of the word tandem)
14:10:26 [darcy] this is not an every day cutting technique
14:10:39 [darcy] its kind of like you are creating a strobe light effect
14:10:51 [darcy] you wouldn't have a strobe light going at a wedding ceremony
14:11:00 [darcy] know what i mean?
14:11:19 [Mitch] yep
14:11:35 [Nancy] ok
14:12:58 [darcy] does anyone have any questions about anything we've covered?
14:13:15 [darcy] anything else you'd like me to discuss that hasn't been discussed yet?
14:13:19 [Mitch] good here
14:14:28 [darcy] just to review what i was saying earlier.....
14:14:53 [darcy] typically you would layout a rough cut by trimming in the source and performing insert edits
14:15:26 [darcy] the CTI will always move to the end of the last clip you insert, so you can layout out an entire sequence without ever having to make the timeline active
14:16:19 [darcy] once you have a rough cut assemble - some people call it an assembly - you would watch it all and start to identify what needs trimming, what belongs, what doesn't, what needs to be moved
14:16:32 [darcy] you use your fancy new editing techniques to do this
14:17:14 [darcy] if you find a clip that works, but not quite well enough for your liking, maybe a pan, and you know you have another one, you can use your trim, insert or overlay techniques to replace the clip
14:17:20 [Nancy] when you're done with your review, I have a question.
14:17:30 [darcy] cool
14:18:08 [darcy] and once things really start getting into shape, when the majority of your trimming has been done, then you can start to consider transitions and later effects
14:18:34 [darcy] this is not set in stone as the only way to edit, but its a tried and true workflow that works
14:18:52 [darcy] everyone delineates slightly based on their own style
14:19:06 [darcy] but this should hopefully give you a sense of how to approach things
14:19:19 [darcy] nancy?
14:19:25 [Mitch] thanks for leading the discussion darcy
14:19:47 [darcy] my pleasure mitch! thanks for having me
14:19:50 [FM] good discussion darcy
14:20:01 [Nancy] in and out points - versus razor cuts. I was just trying to make multiple in/outs but all it does is adjust the first one on the timeline.
14:20:20 [Nancy] I've learned a lot Darcy. thank you so much
14:20:41 [darcy] you are setting in and out points in the timeline?
14:20:58 [darcy] that's actually something we didn't cover - but I'd like to if everyone doesn't mind
14:21:23 [FM] sure
14:21:29 [Mitch] you can
14:21:49 [darcy] sometimes you want to lift or extract a clip and then leave it at that - as in remove it from the sequence
14:22:09 [darcy] so you can do that to, where lift will leave a gap and extract will not
14:22:34 [darcy] but you can also lift and extract portions of a clip, or portions of a sequence
14:22:41 [Nancy] no in the source monitor window
14:23:35 [darcy] if you set an inpoint at one point in your sequence, and an outpoint at another point, then press the ";
14:23:40 [darcy] crap
14:24:06 [jburly]
my computer froze up when you were talking about the
jump cuts
was that the last main point that you discussed before your review?
14:24:08 [Mitch]
i don't see that key
14:24:14 [darcy] press the ";" (semi colon) key, you will perform a lift of that section
14:24:27 [Nancy] oh okay.
14:24:46 [darcy] it will lift that portion out and then remove the in and out points
14:24:50 [FM] lol
14:25:02 [darcy] you have to be sure to select the tracks for video and audio you want affected
14:25:43 [darcy] if you do the same and press the "'" (single parenthesis" key, you will perform an extract of that section
14:25:52 [psturgill] oops... sorry was busy... thanks Darcy... big help!!
14:25:54 [darcy] '
14:26:32 [darcy] everyone got that?
14:26:33 [Mitch] ok
14:26:40 [Nancy] so, what you're really telling us, is that it is very very wise to learn as many keyboard shortcuts as we can, right?
14:27:05 [darcy] lol - yup! and these are really simple because of the way they are laid out
14:27:31 [psturgill]
no Silly Nancy... he is saying.... stop trying to
learn this complicated product and hire him for work..
LOL
14:27:51 [FM] LOL
14:27:57 [Mitch] thanks everyone for coming
14:28:21 [psturgill] well these two sessions along with the ones from the past have been really great...
14:28:23 [jburly]
thanks darcy!!! sorry i missed the end
14:28:25 [FM] thanks Darcy & Mitch!
14:28:27 [darcy] these can be done with buttons in the program monitor, but using the shortcuts is so much quicker
14:28:32 [jburly] stupid computer....
14:28:35 [Nancy] thanks Mitch for the use of your space. and of course thanks Darcy for your wealth of information.
14:28:48 [psturgill]
I learned more than I did when I picked up the
manual... oh wait.. I was supposed to open it and read right??
14:28:52 [darcy] nancy, was that actually the question you had a while back?
14:29:36 [psturgill] Nancy, any more PS chats coming up in the future?
14:29:46 [Nancy] the question was on in/out versus razor - I seem to be having a little trouble doing what I want - I really think I just need more practice.
14:30:07 [Nancy] I'm happy to do more - but I need to get caught up a little first Paul.
14:30:11 [darcy] i next to never use the razor tool
14:30:39 [jburly] Nancy, when I capture video, I capture everything because I don't have much footage for my "events"
14:30:52 [Nancy] that must be what I'm doing wrong - but so far I use it a lot - because it is what has worked for me. I'll study up more on in/out
14:31:01 [jburly] I use to use the razor tool, until I saw someone right up how to set the in/out points in the monitor window
14:31:20 [darcy] just press the i key and the o key
14:31:22 [jburly] Now I double click on a video clip from the project window so that it opens in the monitor window
14:31:37 [jburly] select i & o for the section & insert or overlay
14:31:50 [darcy] bingo
14:31:55 [jburly] then move to another section of the same video clip & select a new i & o
14:31:59 [Nancy] here's what happens though - if I decide to split up a clip I captured, I only manage to change the in/out points for the clip on the timeline, instead of breaking it up into 3 clips.
14:32:04 [jburly] it will keep adding the clips to your sequence
14:32:25 [jburly] you need to double click on the ORIGINAL clip from your project window
14:32:28 [darcy] nancy, you trim your clips in the source monitor
14:32:32 [jburly] not the clip after it has been added to the timeline
14:33:12 [Nancy] oh oh - that's maybe the problem. okay. I'm diving in for a quick try on this.
14:33:40 [jburly] if you double click on the "timeline" clip, then yes, as you change the in & out points you are changing them for the clip on your timeline
14:34:15 [Nancy] hey works like a dream when I do it properly.